250K to join and the season is, what, 3-6 months for real? If you join one you belong to both., McLemore is interesting but far too expensive for its location on the Georgia side of Lookout Mtn., You'll see advertisements for another "membership" that is a monthly fee to have unlimited access to 5-6 formerly private courses. Del Mar Chipper, you're back east. For what it's worth, I have a group of about 30 guys, where we have a money game every Friday and rotate among the North County courses, and occasion other places (i.e. You can negotiate, but the at those rates, what is the real difference between $180k and $160k?? If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. The picturesque green is heavily protected with bunkers, and a shot to the center of the green is usually the best play. Im always happy to assist. Display as a link instead, 5 Testers Needed! Best range by far, also has the youngest membership. Scotty Squareback and Odyssey OG #7, Srixon ZX5 MKII Irons 4-PW Like New and a Titleist U505 4 Iron, OG Nike TW13 PING i59 irons Vessel Stand bag (trade). 2. The nice thing about equity memberships is that you can buy low and sell high. 703.957.4800, LIFESTYLE It seems to me that some of the initiation fees mentioned here a few years have dropped considerably. Initiation around $10k.. 8. la jolla cc (la jolla) 0000007121 00000 n It makes it hard for me to understand why anyone would choose to live in the most over-developed part of the city with the most pavement, the most cookie-cutter subdivisions and the most traffic. You can walk up to the first tee on Friday at noon and have the place to yourself. In my book, lol! Santa Maria Golf Course has a history of being recognized as one of the best public golf courses in southeast Louisiana; having received Golf Digests highest rankingfor a municipal course. Please contact our Club Director for details about how to join Natirar Club . Another local club prorates initiation fees based on the new member's age; a younger member joins for a lower up-front cost. Your link has been automatically embedded. TM Sim2 Max 16.5* 3 wood Tensei Blue 60S, TM SIM2 MAx 4 Hybrid Ventus Stiff shaft Initiation is only $20,000, and the golf course is a great trackas good as most mentioned, if not better. Any player not on the same unfortunately san diego golf is very average from both a private and public standpoint. The membership boost was credited to the investment made into the golf clubs course renovation in addition to changes in the initiation fee. Thanks!!! 2023 The Farms Country Club. Great course, facilities and staff and a broad range of members in terms of ages and abilities. Resale? 18460 Santa Maria Parkway, Baton Rouge, LA 70810, Course Its true the exclusive clubs keep the initiation fees high for a reason. Todd, Where did you land? I'm contemplating a move to that area and would like to know where you landed and what the club is like. Would line to keep to under 40k initiation which may be tough! As opposed to Santaluz for example which has tennis, fitness, swimming, spa etc. younger than 30, or perhaps younger than 40). 203.265.0941. info@farmscc.org. This is a full-family membership and includes children under the age of 23 who are living at home, in school, or in the active military. Makes DMCC seem affordable. Rancho Santa Fe is one of the best golfing communities around. Most of the courses weren't great before, and they aren't being maintained well at all., I think that's everything worth considering right in Chattanooga. The green has a bunker to the right and water surrounding it on the left. I only know a couple of people that really like this course. Signal is quirky but fun, membership is good and theres always Opportunities for gambling, like Councilfire., Honors is, without question, my favorite Pete Dye track. Don't be tempted. Water runs the length of the hole on the left side and makes this hole extremely difficult. The commitment to this membership is for a year. Initiation fee is non-refundable. Second bestPauma Valley great track. 0000042427 00000 n APPLY NOW: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! We are currently only taking Player's Club Members from Player's Club PM roster. 5. fairbanks ranch cc (fairbanks) Aldie, Virginia 20105 This right dogleg par 4 is a classic design from Robert Trent Jones. But 3. I'm from North County and id rather live in the Rancho/del mar/solana beach area than anywhere else. I've been fortunate enough to play The Farms, Santaluz, and the Bridges through some family friends. Do memberships typically appreciate? 0000006651 00000 n But I take it from your viewpoint, The Honors course is the biggest redeeming quality of Ooltewah. , The 75/24 split is currently undergoing a huge renovation that should make it easier to navigate without delays, so that'll help, but avoiding it altogether is entirely possible too. Can play short if wind isn't up (but usually is). There are a couple of reasonably priced clubs in the Rancho Santa Fe area ,check Morgan Run C.C. Members are also invited to participate in Southworth community events, like the Southworth Cup golf tournament, held annually at The Abaco Club. I'm guessing that the monthly dues are absolutely not negotiable which is understandable I guess. Scotty Squareback and Odyssey OG #7, Srixon ZX5 MKII Irons 4-PW Like New and a Titleist U505 4 Iron, OG Nike TW13 PING i59 irons Vessel Stand bag (trade). Be careful, though. WebThis membership comes at an annual cost of $9.95 The membership also comes with an one-time processing charge of $99. Memberships may be negotiable in many parts of the country, but people have to keep in mind that Rancho Santa Fe, now number 2, was the richest community per capita in the United States. Leaving a membership at a pretty high end club and with as difficult as getting in to private clubs has gotten with waitlists, I'm nervous I won't find anything comparable. I expressed some interest in the Farms. the honors is all about golf, period. they do close for the winter, the past couple of years they have closed the week before Christmas and usually open up the first week in march. once again, the honors is about golf. i believe the end of 2021 they are going to close around november and stay closed longer than normal. they are going to be doing some things to the golf course, irrigation stuff. they are building an awesome new guest house. me05501 pretty much hit the nail on the head explaining the courses in chattanooga. now i played black creek probably 5-6 years ago and thought it was fun but i'm sorry i can't get past a par 5 with a mound in the fairway and you have to aim at a bullseye in the trees cause you can't see the green. But i liked the vibe and atmosphere there. Chattanooga G&CC is nice. there amenities are great. the golf course is good. council fire is a great golf course condition wise. i really enjoy playing GOLF there but i have met some jerks there. not my cup of tea. now i have not been out there in a couple of years so that may have changed. The Golf Club of California in Fallbrook looks really nice but it's too far away from RSF. I know many golf clubs here in SW Cincinnati that are hurting for members. Of the three, the Bridges was by far my favorite, but Santaluz was excellent too. The Farms looks fantastic, but they say you need endorsement from two current members from what I recall. The course is so-so. This left dogleg par 4 requires a straight ball off the tee. Santaluz GC [size=4]Scotty Cameron Golo[/size], The Farms looks fantastic, but they say you need endorsement from two current members from what I recall. If you have a six figure for initiation fee and won't blink on $600-$1200 monthly due, just go and get whatever pleases you. nice but uninspired, would be mid-pack if further north. It is also a great course, very well maintained. Best range by far, also has the youngest membership. Like others have said, the payment can be negotiated, but the price usually cannot be. Theyre serious about their rules, but theyre always very respectful to their guests. [/quote] Pretty reasonable cost. <<549E43423DAF554E8242050717E33C9D>]>> Whats more, membership at Creighton Farms entitles you to enjoy reciprocal privileges at all other Southworth clubs in the U.S. and The Bahamas. Director Laurel Lemari proposed that the ad hoc tree planting master plan committee be discussed at the boards October meeting. Most of these clubs are so new I don't think they have come close to reaching their total membership limit. Privacy Statement, LSU Golf CourseNicholson at GourrierBaton Rouge, LA 70803Telephone: (225) 578-3394. The one way you could make money is to get in while a club is new and/or low on members. The Farms Course is short, narrow, twisty. Some of those influences have softened over 20 years of maintenance but it has evolved into a very challenging and playable layout IMO., When it first opened a bunch of the bunkers had 90* corners. Initiation is only $20,000, and the golf course is a great trackas good as most mentioned, if not better. If they are starving for members and you don't mind pissing them off and then having to try again at another club, go for it. It also depends on if you're looking to join more for the golf course or if you're looking for family activities such as a pool, tennis, etc. Bridges [quote name='thedek' timestamp='1429330017' post='11385457'] [/quote] 2. grand del mar (carmel valley) Aldie, Virginia 20105 WebThis is a full-family membership that offers access to all amenities and activities at The Club at Creighton Farms, and allows the member to bring guests, subject to applicable charges. Non-refundable initiation fee can be made in four annual payments. Fairbanks Ranch 0 He encouraged the timely formation of the committee to develop a plan and take advantage of the optimal season for planting young trees in fall and winter. The Honors closes around Halloween and reopens around Master's Week IIRC., The facilities are nice but not big. Rates for Sign up to recieve the latest updates from Creighton Farms. Also no cart fees. EDIT : Forgot a couple The aiming target is the only part that is objectionable to me. In the budget re-forecast, the dues income is nearly $600,000 higher. the Grand), the gimmicks are often risk/reward, vs. just forcing you to play a certain way. The "lowball" group will usually be where single-digits congregateand the "dogfight" will be a little more casual/less competitive. They are constantly emailing and callign trying to get me to join, all kinds of offers, discounts, etc. With a bunker on the front left and a hazard on the right, accuracy is at a premium on this par 3. But you can also live overtoward Lookout Mtn/Lookout Valley andbe much closer to downtown while having Black Creek, Lookout Mountain, McLemore, Sweeten's Cove and other great courses nearby.. Exception: Missing the green may result in a bogey or worse. SantaLuz. 0000011076 00000 n checks are issued if you did not get to complete the back nine, but have completed Monday Thursday, Louisiana State University maderas (poway) is upscale public and overrated but very good and you can join a yearly deal there to pay reduced greens fees. 0000006761 00000 n True, there are the really nice, exclusive clubs that may offer a decent return for your leaving, but not many. and it is very inexpensive ,if you want a players club ,check it out . Golf Digest ranks the course #5 in MN. There's not a single good coffee shop in the entire East Brainerd area, just Starbucks. MEMBER LOGIN Im also anxious to see Sweetens and Sewanee - both have almost a cult following. 5 Testers Needed! You might get back your initiation fee, or not. The others, Farms, Bridges, etc, are pretty pricey and well in the $100-200k range. And yes, most equity memberships also require a member or two to 'sponsor' the applicant. I am moving to that area and want to join a club as close to my home as possible. You guys have given me some good ideas and any additional info would be great especially in regards to this area and or clubs. This is a full-family membership that offers access to all amenities and activities at The Club at Creighton Farms, and allows the member to bring guests, subject to applicable charges. This par 3 is challenging for any player every time they play it. to manage, so any miss will be punished. Based on the slowdown of the housing market this may take a while. Paula Valley. the honors have been taking trees out for a few years now, i think the number i heard was 900 so far. you just wouldn't know it cause there is so many trees there. the spring tornado did change the look on 13, 12, 11, and mainly 9 and 10. the only problem with the tornado, it did not take out the tree left of 6 green! Some love, some hate. AREA Can play short if wind isn't up (but usually is). 0000003026 00000 n 6. rancho santa fe farms cc (rancho) Also, feel free to drop me a line if you need help finding a house and/or a good place to join in SD. I second SDCC one of the best in San Diego. On the plus side, the initiation and dues are some of the lowest in the area. Accessibility Statement I'm a San Diego native and grew up playing many of the private courses in the RSF area. 6. Hoping for good weather. Opportunities for renovation, and that's big in Poway right now. As well, many clubs reduce initiation fees for "young" new members (i.e. Scotty Squareback and Odyssey OG #7, Srixon ZX5 MKII Irons 4-PW Like New and a Titleist U505 4 Iron, OG Nike TW13 PING i59 irons Vessel Stand bag (trade). 4b. They have a small pool and a decent grill and restaurant. Upload or insert images from URL. bernardo heights is not bad (rancho bernardo). formId: "df965642-0e0c-47dc-9c07-229cad74db53", WebMembership Inquiry. Otherwise there are much more livable and comfortable areas IMO. One of the prettiest tee views on the course, this downhill par 3 plays slightly shorter than the yardage implies. Thanks! be careful, this also means any shot drawing left may end up in the water. There are only about 80 golf members, so its a ghost town. Initiation fee may be waived if membership is activated within sixty (60) days of purchase. Bridges Offered to candidates living more than 40 miles from The Club. Would line to keep to under 40k initiation which may be tough! They are constantly emailing and callign trying to get me to join, all kinds of offers, discounts, etc. What are the current initiation fees and specials they are offering you? I think with the economy and the sort fo leveling off of golf, memberships can be had for very little compared to what they were going for. They really would like for all play to be walking with caddies. If you work at CBL or US Express or McKee Foods it makes sense to stay on that side of town. These are some pretty exclusive clubs, and to my knowledge initiation fees have never ever been negotiatable, in good times or bad. I am trying to figure out if I can negotiate the initiation fee and it sounds like many people think it is possible. Youngish membership. WebThe Farm d' Allie Golf Club in Louisiana is a spectacular eighteen-hole championship golf course crafted by Golf Course Architect Jeffery D. Blume. If there is one particular club you want to be at, I wouldn't try to negotiate anything but the terms. Vokey SM8 56* sand wedge, Vokey SM9 60* lob wedge We recently converted our greens to tif-eagle and they are fantastic. [quote name='MarkSD' timestamp='1309974552' post='3369214'] Assistant Managers: B.J. You cannot paste images directly. Mostly great people but the jerks seem to assert themselves into leadership roles and set a tone I don't enjoy all that much., Almost every element of Black Creek's design was heavily influenced by very traditional Scottish courses, even the ones many people would say "aren't right." Probably has the most 'good' golfers. Thanks! Lomas Santa Fe CC is something to consider. With the this economy the way it is right now, EVERYTHING is negotiable!!! As a Southworth club, Creighton Farms is committed to offering its members the kind of caring and truly personal service that has all but gone extinct in todays world. del mar country club (fairbanks) 2023 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 The Honda Classic - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Genesis Invitational - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am - Discussion and Links to all photos, 2023 HSBC Women's World Championship (Mar 02 - 05), Byron Morgan best for your balls DH89 & the elusive DBCM 8802, TWO PUTTERS - ONE POST. Another option if you end up in East Brainerd area is Windstone. Ive played SDCC and TGDM.. Im fortunate that Ive already made some connections that will get me on the Honors once we get moved. Fairways: TaylorMade M1 (2017) Aldila Black; Cobra Baffler F6, Irons: Cobra KING Forged Tec Irons Steelfiber i110cw, Wedges: Ping Glide 2.0 54*; Callaway JAWS Full Toe 58*. Short and narrow, rare for WebCost. [/quote] Diversity Statement Black Creek and Council Fire are very comparable in terms of course quality and conditions, amenities and food. It's very affordable at about $6,500 initiation and $350/month or so for a golfing family membership. This par 4 plays longer than the yardage listed due to the tight out of bounds on the left and the mounds lining the fairway on the right. The problem with Santaluz and Crosby is fire and the courses aren't on par with the courses in Rancho. Sign up to recieve the latest updates from Creighton Farms. Smaller courses could be as little as $200 per month, while more prestigious clubs are much more. Theyre serious about their rules, but t, Wife and I drive through Chattanooga when go to Florida(have overnighted there off Shallowford Rd a couple times. But, on average, you could say two-thirds of clubs 20K is nothing for membership. And its in my top 10 of courses Ive ever played. One question i didnt ask earlier - any of these courses have regular games that are walkers or push/pull carts? CONTACT US ABOUT might be consensus best course in area, though I think that's just because we play it less due to location (personally think RSF is better, but Pauma is nice). Knoxville is way ahead of Chattanooga in terms of public access courses., All of these suggestions are great. Rancho Santa Fe Golf Club I think with the economy and the sort fo leveling off of golf, memberships can be had for very little compared to what they were going for. Initiation fees are occasionally negotiable. Cleveland RTX 3.0 50*, 54*, and 58* KBS 61 Not sure if that was put in by the designer or as a concession to members who couldn't get their heads around a blind approach. All Rights Reserved. HOMES Another local club prorates initiation fees based on the new member's age; a younger member joins for a lower up-front cost. Full Golf Membership, Family Membership. 22050 Creighton Farms Drive Morgan Run is hardly a country club worth joining unless you just want an easy track to scoot around with avg facilites. Cool. Your link has been automatically embedded. Some high-end clubs actually appreciate a member's initiation fee if he or she sells out. NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! [quote name='wirelessness' post='848154' date='Jan 3 2008, 09:49 PM']I am moving to that area and want to join a club as close to my home as possible. They do have "specials", especially from the corporate owned clubs. are not my type. There are only about 80 golf members, so its a ghost town. Non-refundable initiation fee can be made in four payments. Relocating to Chattanooga - private clubs? 0000008685 00000 n xref I won't be surprised if sponsorship from existing memebers are also required, to make sure the new members could fit in. Farms. I am trying to figure out if I can negotiate the initiation fee and it sounds like many people think it is possible. IMHO the best deal in the San Diego County, for a private club is The Golf Club of California, in Fallbrook. Our group varies from say 5ish HCs up to some 50 year old former tour winners (that are probably +5ish HCs at this point). Yeah, 40K will be tough, but you might be able to get it to 60 or 70 with a jr membership. Hey there and welcome to my hometown. WOWWW! No rain checks issued after nine holes have been played. Anyone know if council fire accepts reciprocal play? The Crosby and Santaluz are the new kids on the block. So for those who got in early, their 20-something grand will probably be worth a lot more when we fill up. All three local hospital systems have their main campuses close to downtown. Srixon ZX5 5iron,Srixon ZX7 (6-9) - UST Recoil 110 F5, The right club for you will depend on what part of town you live in, your age, price range and the kind of games you're looking for., Black Creek would be my first choice if it was anywhere close to convenient toyou. Obtain and carefully review the offering materials for The Club at Creighton Farms before making any decision to purchase a membership. Non-refundable initiation fee can be made in four annual payments. approach. Though our turf grasses go dormant we have a lot of days over 50 degrees throughout the winter and people like to get out and play. The Spanish-style clubhouse includes a pro shop, a full-service restaurant and a private conference/dining room and fitness center. region: "na1", Golf Amenities. Has the landscape on initiation fees changed much elsewhere lately? We are looking at either the scripps Ranch, poway, 4s, rancho bernando, or potentially Carlsbad areas. Some of the clubs mentioned are equity type memberships, some are corporate owned. Initiation: $50,001 $75,000 Dues: $10,001 $15,000 annually. He estimated that had they started the project today they would have been unlikely to be able to do it for less than $11 million. If membership is close to full, you won't get a break on the amount, but maybe terms. WebFor membership information or assistance, please contact our General Manager, Scott Heyn, at (858) 756-5585, ext. SDCC. If they don't need you, then you have little negotiating room. The club is in a good financial position with new memberships bringing the clubs enrollment fee revenues $2.4 million higher than what was budgeted, according to Seth Goldman, Association chief financial officer. John A Not sure exactly what the specific offers are today, but I am pretty sure if you are a good negotiator, the Farms can be had very close to nothing down and $600 a month. A misplaced tee shot can turn an easy par into a bogey quickly. Honors is invitation only. I am in Atlanta, so I do not know about the rest of the private courses there. LIFESTYLE Rancho Santa Fe is a clear cut above the restalthough you have to live in the covenant and memberships are usually included with the home, if not, there is a very modest initiation fee. Prices and terms are subject to change without notice. Book a Tee Time; Rates; Course Rental; Course Layout; Gallery; Pro Shop; Tournament Schedule; Contact; Rates | LSU Golf Course. Rates . The Farm is in Dalton and I know people in Chattanooga who have been granted "non-resident member" status. No gimmicky holes, no spectacular holes. As far the courses go, I'd rank them: The Grand Yeah, I think the notable thing about The Honors is how everyone there seems to want to make you feel comfortable and relaxed. Theres nothing stuf I'm bringing up an old topic here, but wanted to know if anyone has any updated information on San Diego area Country Clubs and initiation fees. 0000000976 00000 n the rancho santa fe courses are really the only good private courses down there, other than san diego country club. LJCC. [quote name='tarheelrx' timestamp='1429391391' post='11388143'] 2022 Scorecard Golf Pro Shop: 203.269.9000 Designed by Geoffrey Cornish in 1960, our par 72, 18 Hole championship course provides a tremendous experience for all levels of play. Being able to resell the membership for at least close to what I paid would be very important also. This lengthy par 5 requires three good shots and two putts to card a par. Rancho hosted the At&t before Pebble and has excellent practice facilities as well as excellent golfers, Phil Mickelson and Jamie Lovemark. Rancho Santa Fe Golf Club I expressed some interest in the Farms. Both are over $100k to join. Lomas Santa Fe is the cheapest, but its kinda a boring track (IMHO). We have been on Signal Mountain since 2005 and it is a great community., I believe Chattanooga still has a reciprocal relationship with Signal. It is also like Real Estate. Nice range. WebCost. 0000007528 00000 n . Good course to work on accuracy. 703.957.4800 In short, it's not a great 'investment'. LISTINGS Pasted as rich text. 2. If they are desperate for members, then everything is negotiable. Best of the rest: As far as The Honors Course goes, it is definitely invitation only. I've played several times as a guest and it is a great day of golf, but it is a I think with the economy and the sort fo leveling off of golf, memberships can be had for very little compared to what they were going for. Full Golf Membership, Family Membership. Initiation: $50,001 $75,000 Dues: $10,001 $15,000 annually. Its spectacular architecturally but conditioning Isnt always perfect. You cannot paste images directly. There are probably 12 good holes and 6 that aren't up to the standard of the others., Lookout Mtn's course is longer and more challenging, but I don't know many people who belong there without living on Lookout Mtn. San Diego Country Club is another good one(best greens around), but given where you are moving, a drive either to San Diego or to GC of California will be a long. It's definitely memorable and most people can score anywhere from 3 to 9 on it which makes it a great match play hole IMO.. Worked for a couple of the club owners/operators at one time or another. TM SLDR 430 10.5* w/ Speeder If you are under 40, most clubs have some sort of Jr. Exec membership available. We have 4 guys that are members, we haven't chosen to play there in over a year Joining a club is sort of like getting married - you get to play more often and the tee times are easier to get, but it's the same course every day . Initiation: $100,001 $150,000 Dues: $0 $5,000 annually Membership Types. Website Feedback Golfwise, you do have more options out there with Council Fire, Windstone, Bear Trace, Champion's Club and the munis, plus TopGolf. Santa Marias signature hole, the par 5 18th, requires and an accurate tee shot as the fairway is well bunkered with water on the right side. Maderas. If you are open to other areas to have a membership, there are a lot of really nice clubs you can join for $20k or less a lot less in some cases. %%EOF Membership is by invitation. I would recommend The Farms, and you don't have to live in Rancho to be a member. I've always said that people who live in Ooltewah/East Brainerd and work downtown have chosen to include Atlanta-style traffic as a part of theirChattanooga commute. Wife and I drive through Chattanooga when go to Florida(have overnighted there off Shallowford Rd a couple times. The Bridges They strive to run at break-even every year, and I think most years they have, but the club rule is that any shortfall is borne pro-rataby the members at the end of the season. Thanks, Rarity Bay is worth the drive if going from Chattanooga to Knoxville and want to play on the way up but coming from Knoxville, I'd drive a few more miles and play at The Links at Kahite. 3. The 18-hole course measures 6,969 yards in There are all kinds of people there, but the ones who dominate the lowballs, member/guests, etc. Pasted as rich text. This is an expensive area but I am not totally loaded so I need to find the best deal possible. Offered to candidates living more than 40 miles from the club. Thanks! I expressed some interest in the Farms. Any shot left will likely end up wet. cssClass: 'hsform hs-form-footer', Then down the road can I sell the membership if I move or want to change clubs? I'm in the same boat as Scott. Black creek is a tribute to Raynor so you see lots of template holes including a huge Biarritz, Redan, short, eden and an awesome punchbowl. 96 0 obj<>stream Black Lab Oil Can 350g custom grind by "Geo" putter, C&L 350 Milled Oil Can Putter (3 of them!). Practice Range, Instruction, PGA Professionals on staff, Golf Shop, Mens Invitational, Mens Day, Walking, Caddies, No Tee Times, Snacks at the turn, Group of single digit players SantaLuz. Cobra Bio Cell+ 13.5* w/ Matrix Morgan Run I think it's a pretty good track. Was just looking at Windstone on the map. I see they are right on the state line. Must be an administrative nightmare being in both states. well i probably came off to harsh on my comments as i was kind of laughing while typing. i would not hesitate to join black creek, just that one ho Hole #6. [/quote] That phase of the project may be bumped to spring 2022, in the next growing season. I've played several times as a guest and it is a great day of golf, but it is a major financial commitment that comes with a lot of caveats., It's the only course that closes for the winter. The Farms is middle of the road pricewise and is a stellar track .The Crosby has the best set of par 3s I've played ,The Bridges is flat out spectacular and pricey .Ther is a club in Vista called Shadowridge that is a great track and has the most single digit members of any club in S.D. and 3 that are not officially in RSF but practially Members are also invited to participate in Southworth community events, like the Southworth Cup golf tournament, held annually at The Abaco Club. Non-refundable initiation fee can be made in four payments.