HOME SERMONS ARTICLES CONTACT ABOUT US: Preacher's Ponderings. Independent Fundamental Churches of America, fellowship of conservative, independent Christian churches stressing biblical truth. He lived a sinless and exemplary life, died on the cross in our place, and rose again to prove His victory and empower us . The mighty IFB has spoken It looks like I'm wasting my time. . What we believe at Fundamental Baptist Church about Jesus, the Bible, and the Church. I personally do not think tithing is wrong, When Jesus refers to tithing didnt He uphold it & only objected to other sins but did not speak aganist it. (Colossians 1:18; Matthew 18:15-20; Acts 15:22-21; 2 Corinthians 8:1-5, 19, 23) Priesthood of the Believer. The name Protestant was given to those churches which came out of Roman Catholicism during the Reformation which began in the 1500s. Our pastor has NEVER once insinuated that the church ought to obey him. Thus the words Independent and Fundamental have been added by many Baptist churches to further identify themselves as truly Bible believing churches and to show a distinction between themselves and Baptist churches who were not following Gods word. Many Baptist churches have Trustees, but their position was established in order to have legal signatories to sign legal documents of the church. But it is for these very reasons that I and millions of other Americans cant understand it. Independent Baptist Churches believe the following "Independent Baptist Distinctives": 1. Im calling into question yourreasoning as to why you are defending your belief about tithing. Reasons for NOT Accepting the KJV as Gods Preserved Word A response to Pastor James Melton, 71. I will not post here again. Further, suppose that a Bible somehow was to fall from the plane and the inhabitants of this isolated land were to be able to pick up that Bible and read the text for themselves. These distinctives are the distinctives taught in Bible which constitute a true New Testament church. I hear a lot that the IFB has strict dress standards. John 10:10, 53, Cornhill, 1813, Fundamental Baptist CD ROM Library, 1701 Harns Rd. Finally, I think you have some anger issues. God bless. Please excuse me. 3. Not because of how we dress but by who we are. 2 talking about this. Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. Psalm 137:9. If you dont already, try it some time. In 1906 there was a split with this group, some believing that there should be no musical instruments in the church (dont know where this got dreamed up, certainly didnt find it in the bible) This is when they started calling themselves the Churches of Christ. We believe that Jesus is the only one who can reconcile us to God. IndependentBaptist.com was founded in an attempt to bring back the principles that lifted our movement in the 60's and 70's and that need to be revived in this day. After working for a few hours in our home, the Dish tech stopped working and looked at me asking, Am I correct in believing this is a Christian home I am working in? I said yes. Northwest Bible Baptist Church is an old-fashioned, independent, fundamental Baptist church in Elgin, IL that believes, preaches, and practices the Bible. Follow us on Pinterest: To distinguish oneself from every other believer in the Body of Christ by either a doctrine, a practice, or a person is not scriptural, as the apostle Paul wrote to the Corinthians. (P.S. If I were asked to compare the church I attend with another denomination that I knew about. Greg all churches that suppoort Tithing as a good thing (incl IFB, CALVARLY CHAPEL, Many Non-Denominational Chruches,etc) Tithe a Tenth of thier income to building Gods Kingdom. I love your statement above about The Grace economy I think Im going to have to borrow it. Pastors tiptoe around specific sins so not to offend. I usually look fwd to these. No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day., Based on the Word of God, I submit to you that Gods plan will not be thwarted because I fail to do something. 2.) May God bless Bob. No words could console. The New Testament teaches the absolute autonomy of each local church who is to govern itself as the Word of God instructs free from outside authority and control. Like friends of my son who were in Mexico recently. We are not under law. Historically, Baptists were never a part of the Roman Catholic Church or the Protestant Reformation and therefore can not be correctly called protestors or Protestants. halftruth and deception ministries. Its beginning charter reads as follows: We whose names are hereunder written, being desirous to inhabit ourselves in active and passive obedience to all such orders or agencies as shall be made for the public good of the body in an orderly way, by the major consent of the present inhabitants, masters of families, incorporated together into the same, only in civil things.. Thus, history and the doctrines of Protestantism clearly show that Baptists are not Protestants. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. Showing 1-20 of 633 church listings. Knolleys was under deep conviction of the need to preach the New Testament and follow its example as ones rule of faith. Omissions? Corrections? Hah Im really the only reply to this incredible read?! Others have to a lesser degree compromised the Word of God by their teaching, practices and church polity trying to confront to popular religious tends. Overview of the Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination, A Brief Survey Of Independent Fundamental Baptist Churches: What They are and What is Their History. 53, Cornhill, 1813, Fundamental Baptist CD ROM Library, 1701 Harns Rd. 2 Timothy 2:15, Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. This was the best onemembers in our church raise hands, say amen, clap after special music (GASP! This again cannot be proven from history. This is the biggest wrong teaching of the Churches of Christ, although you have lots of company in this wrong belief, it is still wrong teaching. Alsoas in regargds to whom Jesus spoke to (they were Phairsees)I dont think that matters, the Phairsee just happened to be the ones constantlty questioning & troubling Himas well as were the Religious Leaders of that day whom example was probally looked at by others to follow (note Jesus: Do the things that they teach, Jesus said, But do not do the things that they do). Independent Fundamental Baptist churches have fellowship one with the other and often cooperate in such endeavors as evangelism. The bulk of your comments were about the historical background of the Church of Christ movement. This was the birth of Protestant churches. About. 5. The Calvinistic or Particular Baptists were a different group and believed in limited atonement in which only the elect could be saved. God has not entrusted that authority to impart salvation to any man or church. The study of Gods word deserves more time than this life holds. Though we no longer keep the ritual and sacramental law, Gods moral laws and prophesies of things yet to come are not to be ignored. Men meeting the Biblical qualification of deacons (servants) (1 Tim. These New Testament believers rejected every attempt to include them in with the other churches who compromised and accepted the Roman governments money, rule and authority. Im looking forward to laughing at more of your comments. First I find your demeaning undertone disheartening. Those soldiers they so casually curse gave their life so that these wannabe BLM or ANTIFA buttinskies could spew their hate at those who defended their freedoms. For you tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass by justice and the love of God. It is well to note that not all Virginians felt this way. -What about the Jerusalem Council in Acts (I believe I am using the right title here, but I have not check my accuracy)? For example when Jesus said to not store up treasures on earth where they would persih but in HeavenI believe Hes refering to at least in part some Godly endeavors (that often take money)that we do for His namesake. Thank you. I do not agree with the IFB on their viewpoint of strict dress standards. Also, I support tithing personally. The Great Awakening stirred religious interests in the colonies and a reported great revival took place. In 1688 a Baptist church was organized at Pennepeck, Pennsylvania with twelve members. Unaccountable. Do you think you can bring others to Christ in this manner? Anyone not holding Episcopal ordination was forbade to hold services. There were nine original members of the church which included two women. Hope youll check it out. Baptist as a whole were patriots and many Baptist pastors served as chaplains in the Revolutionary Army. Blessings. I am not trying to be overly critical and yet I only have a certain amt of time to get to my points and while doing that I often come across that way, so forgive me. I was able to better understand the New Testament. But this issue is just another one that the IFBs get wrong, worrying themselves over externals as opposed to the internals. The local pastor is the shepherd (Heb. Because of persecution by the Anglican church of all who disagreed with it and who refused to agree to its authority, John Smyth had to flee England. You said that I pulled that phrase out of context but then you went on to prove that it was in context. 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It bases its belief in the New Testament teaching that every believer is a priest to himself, having full excess to God without the need to go through a church, church leader or priest. It is the clergymen who are affiliated. 601 1ST AVE SE . I have done my share of research on what defines a cult and unless Im missing something, we dont qualify as a such. clarity/dont want to lieas far as experiences at churche sin regards to Tithing: I practiced tithing at former Non-Den churchPAastor explained tithing, giving & offering I think & wa sclear not mandatory but reallywhy tenth onlyactual giving by restricting only seemed to be what I learned from thatits all His. For example inn Isle of Wight county in southeastern Virginia, Baptist preachers were taken to Nansamond River, nearly drowned by Episcopalians to show their contempt for Baptists beliefs in immersion and their rejection of infant Baptism. In 1638, Williams made his way to what is now Providence, Rhode Island, and there bought some land from the Indians. It is one made up of baptized believers organized in a local congregation for fellowship, teaching and evangelism. He also had a big thing against girls being in beauty pageants, not sure what the problem was there. A tithe was to be given by Jews under law to a levitical priest and as far as I can tell, it was always a product from the land, be it animals or some sort of plant life. Yes we only use KJV (I perosnally like it better myself because I like the Shakespeareanesque vernacular versus modern but thats a personal choice). 16:18, concerning preserving the institution of the local church, that even the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Doctrinally sound New Testament churches have always existed from the time of Christ and the Apostles until today. I cannot know. Each year members profess 16 articles of faith that include the original five points of fundamentalismthe literal truth of divinely inspired scripture, the Virgin Birth and deity of Christ, substitutionary atonement through Christ, the Resurrection, and the Second Coming of Christ. Select church size. I began my spiritual walk with Jesus studying the New Testament, but my journey through the Old Testament only reinforced my belief in the New and showed me more about God. He was talking about ceremonial law not moral law I think you are confusing those two. There is not one Protestant church that is doctrinally pure following the example and polity of the New Testament. Updates? with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you. He showed me a . Ive told bits and pieces of my story here over the last couple of years, so dont want to travel back through all of that, suffice it to say I left a very legalistic IFB, and now find myself in a tiny, new work that a friend started about 4 years ago (about 20 on Sunday) he calls it a Baptist church, I spoke to him about taking the baptist title out of it, but he wouldnt have it. If only people would study more to know the voice of their Savior, there would be no one to follow the false teachers. Since there is no membership at CCs, the congregation neither votes a pastor in, nor can vote their pastor out, if necessary, unlike a Baptist church. The Gospel is to be preached throughout the world by believers empowered by the Holy Spirit as Acts 1:8 plainly states. Or, I hope that youve beaten your children today, 13Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. This kind of power is frightening to meet with. If you want to be under law, you need to keep all 613 commandments of the Mosaic law. That made them in the eyes of God as legitimate a church as any Paul founded.