Never had this much of a problem with any of my guns wow i have the same cal . Advertisement cookies are used to provide visitors with relevant ads and marketing campaigns. $799.99. The cookie is set by GDPR cookie consent to record the user consent for the cookies in the category "Functional". Thanks for the replies, and thanks for the welcome. .375 H&H MAG. They said they changed out the barrel for a new one. In Stock. 0000638869 00000 n Might be a foolish question but is the barrel torqued on well? Most chamberings use a 22-inch, free-floated barrel (also potentially a 20", 24" or 26" barrel length depending on the caliber) that's button rifled. Sent back to them for warranty work. I would regularly receive notices that the item I wanted was available - but when I attempted to purchase the item - the same day - it was "out of stock". Service is where it is at.Bob Dosser. YouTube sets this cookie via embedded youtube-videos and registers anonymous statistical data. Wr 8EJ }e6{,P62,G5eq:kuo\*jOe Weighs in at about 14 lbs with a G2 Razor 4.5-27, and Atlas CAL bipod if that helps you any. But its important to note that the astounding accuracy of todays off-the-shelf production rifles owes a lot to advancements in cartridge development. i own two my custom one is the best rifle i own!!! I have bore scoped the barrel and everything checks out ok. https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/source-for-bergara-extractor.6914434/, seriously, there wasn't even 1/8" of clearance, One Piece vs Two Piece (Removable Forend) Chassis. If it were an all steel barrel it could be stress relieved by 300 Below or a similar outfit. I had never "shot" a Christensen Arms gun, nor did I know anything about them. We also ensure all reviews are published without moderation. Well, I was finally able to get out to the range again with the "Good Ammo" that I had on hand. send it back it has a quarantee. I'm wondering if their carbon fiber barreling is just a gimmick. I have a few factory rifles that will walk the POI as the shot count goes up, which really isn't that unusual, i's still minute of deer accuracy. Maybe not a big deal but thought it was worth mentioning. But a shift AND spread of 4 -10 inches at 100 yards for a $2,300!!!! The CA rep then proceeded to tell me that using 178s was also the problem and that 200grs would shrink it to sub MOA. I have called but can never get a person to talk to. Action: Semi-Auto, direct-impingement gas system. 9. This is my weekend to work nights. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Other. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Like thats basic physics, pretty sure its called the thermodynamics Obviously hot barrels have a POI shift. Every company can have stuff come out with issues, it's how they stand behind it that matters. Barrel: 16" 416R Stainless Steel Aerograde Carbon Fiber Wrapped. Its probably magic that they did nothing and it improved so much but I really dont care. I checked all rail screws with a inlb torque wrench. So dont be surprised to see these cartridges offered in a growing number of production rifles. It was a hot swap. So, the answer is a Tikka in a Bravo. The South Fork is one of the new rifles for PRS Production Class, which must cost $2,500 or less. Is there a difference between the barrels used for your 1/2 MOA rifles versus your Sub-MOA rifles? Introduced in 2018, it is rugged, simple, and accurate. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". 0000018344 00000 n The cylindrical machined titanium action is mated to a Christensen Arms 416R stainless steel, featherlight contour, bead-blasted barrel with removable stainless steel radial brake. HlK0EZB"%Jxk0P;@v{8q"@?oM|s yO"EU7-=QKK.~H_wmT^zi #jWcyD"}ea2CJT)>EBUS1J_^QFplr2 My complaints; the bolt is rough and difficult to close. Junk. But I could be wrong. One of the best Gunsmith, Consumer Services business at 550 Cemetery Rd, Gunnison UT, 84634 United States. A few days later, I went into The Armories in Winter Garden Florida and purchased a Christensen Arms rifle. The cookie is set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin and is used to store whether or not user has consented to the use of cookies. CarbonSix is a good open because I can fine tune my order to my specs while ordering from the others it is buying what they have in stock that suites me the best. A 416R stainless steel-barreled MRP will tip the scales between 8.4 and 9.6 pounds. vxLp[Tj>`;3;pb;Bwyhu? Reloading- What pressure signs do you stop at. Introducing: The Modern Precision Pistol FEATURED COMPONENTS SHOP OUR STORE #CHRISTENSENARMS STAY ARMED WITH UPDATES AND SPECIAL OFFERS CHRISTENSEN ARMS RIDGELINE FFT - $2,417.99 BadRock is owned by Defiance Machine, the foremost maker of precision-rifle actions, and uses a Defiance action. 0000012285 00000 n I allowed for about a 10 minute break. A no-nonsense hunting rifle which is enjoyed by hunters and precision shooters alike. However, no POI shift was ever the same and never returned to a previous zero. H|Un0+(,J~D(QCL;jdI!.-zP`0a1=T7zF67r QN d^Hf"YlsO'a&I.AD11*Q&0J BZ\y/s9 (u8itlpa It can't just disappear. Is my understanding correct that the first shots you fired in this range session was the 25 round group where the rifle was walking while warming up? They are great barrels. Chambered in 6mm Creedmoor, it has the ability to hit targets a long way off. The site owner may have set restrictions that prevent you from accessing the site. :e2vr=xnc>/r\9KRs75I3. BOLT-ACTION. How much better can we expect rifles and cartridges to perform? Carbon fiber is also excellent. Have any of you tried the short chamber offerings in these barrels? 0000004185 00000 n I'm also shooting from a relatively uncomfortable patch of ground. Like truly thought something was broken. Go look through my comments, I DEFENDED CA against these rumors when I first got this gun. I have more direct experience with Christensen (used to work for a dealer), but a little bit of info on Bergara. 0000024402 00000 n I appreciate all the factual based information from everyone. The light weight aside, the carbon-fibre technology also meanst the . Yikes!!! I wanted to find out what the opinion is regarding Christensen Arms barrels? They knew EVERYTHING about their product line and along with the staff of The Armories, we were all super impressed. Breaking in a barrel consists of a series of shooting and cleaning sequences. when your wrapping carbon fibre with a little skinny barrel underneith is fine with normal magnums and nonmagnums, the problem with the 300 ultra is it heats up the barrel too much because the steel is so thin and will actually burn the barrel out in around 200 rounds, now that is just what I read from a few people and I can't remember on which Christensen Arms barrels are designed using precision engineering adopted from the aerospace industry; Christensen Arms Rem 700 compatible carbon-fiber barrels are crafted using a proprietary layered design that offers any marksman superior accuracy and performance. Full disclosure in case my previous comments came off as me advocating for a Christensen Arms over a Bergara because I stand to benefit from it, I no longer work for a Christensen dealer and have no skin in the game (nor could I help OP score any kind of deal on one). Due to this, I brought in my target to 50 with a fresh target and began again, hoping to get a group closer and figure out what was going on. Foot of the Big Belt Mountains near Townsend MT. Hopefully you find a easy fix or they take care of the problem because the Christiansen rifles I've seen and handled definitely have the look and feel of quality. Also the fact the POI shift would change relative to round count and periods of rest is really indicative of bad barrel deficiencies. Sent the rifles serial number and specifics to that rifle. , -Repaired Extraction Issue by installing a new barrel and installing a Sako Extractor and . A friend of mine recently bought a christiansen Ridgeline in 300 rum, has carbon fiber barrel. . "This is a Christensen Arms 700 338 Lapua 26" Factory Carbon Rifle Barrel For Remington 700. This continued for TWO HOURS with different lengths of time to cool the barrel, putting up fresh targets, readjusting my rear bag (at one point I started questioning my sanity and if I even knew how to shoot), and trying every thing I could think of. I can say with absolute certainty the CA barrels are not what they used to be. I am a bit less than pleased. Just $1 per month , Among the dozens of accurate production rifles weve tested over the years, these are the best for long-range precision hunting, We may earn revenue from the products available on this page and participate in affiliate programs. Unless my brand new Razor ii has a SERIOUS problem (which we all know is extremely unlikely) then its most likely the gun. Weve seen a number of tactical/hunter hybrids recently, but the B-14 HMR really nailed the concept. I was gearing towards Christensen and Sako, but decided to go custom. CA's machine work is very good, I see quality in the product. Manufacturer: Christensen Model: Ranger 22 . John B. Like it said in my last post though, by your original post it seems like you shot the MPR first warming up. First make sure that the barrel is clean and free of any oil or solvents from shipping or the manufacturing processes. It should not be walking like that. Its always frustrating when youre having issues with a rifle. The occurrence of POI shift would roughly correspond to the length of time between strings. The Creedmoor is the hottest cartridge on the Sign up for the Field & Stream newsletter and get the latest intelligence straight to your inbox. accurate firearm with cutting-edge, aerospace technology thats not I wish they used krieger, or hart barrels. 0000638426 00000 n }VG-s@}M@foX{]omAzET;ghBPA_(#]X>hq5Q'g^`Fmz7OxC.,/GeBAE;V;@ endstream endobj 177 0 obj <>stream I love my gun but I always need a cheek riser. Description. I don't make a ton of money. The latest entrant in this field is the 6 GT, the brainchild of rifle builder George Gardner and Tom Jacobs, maker of Vaportrail bullets, and a world-class benchrest shooter. Perhaps it was missed, but between 2 outings it has been fired quite a bit by myself and another shooter. 0000010303 00000 n Mine, in 6.5 CM, has turned in numerous bug-hole groups, including a .181-inch screamer. Free shipping for many products! For a listing of our Brownells Europe representatives. I recently sent my Christensen back for it had horrible chrony results and second when I did a OAL to start reloading it was reamed to deep. I've only handled the MPR, and was favorably impressed by it. Best Group: .200 in. Christensen Arms Ranger 22 .22 LR 18" Threaded Barrel 10 Rds 801-12002-00; Item Description; 100% New In The Box. Handguard: 15" Aluminum Hybrid Carbon Fiber, available in M-Lok. Thats why Christensen Arms builds an exceptionally lightweight. Christensen Arms has a carbon fiber-wrapped barrel version of the MPR that weighs between 6.9 and 8.4 pounds. My hunting pard bought a Christensen Ridgeline in 6.5x284 and took it hunting to WY this fall. I have definitely heard some horror stories about Christensen Arms, however the stories I have heard of were more related to chambering issues. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. The barrel lining is made from match-grade 416R stainless steel . It's not recoil or anything for me, it's just general compatibility of attachments since I know a bunch of people make items like Arca rails for XLR chassis but hadn't honestly even heard of Mega Orias prior to looking up more details on the Bergara. It is chambered in .243 Win., .270 Win., .308 Win., .30/06, 7mm Rem. Easy Day. About To Buy A Rifle in .308 Win Steyr Vs. Bergara Vs. Howa? Code: 321-00005-00. You need a good control first. JavaScript is disabled. In the meantime I have a TAC A1 I'm trying out in 6.5cm it's a tack driver. I still say shooter error. Bolt was stiff and needed a rubber hammer to open after firing. All but a few shot extremely well. VXS|+]7 Well-Known Member Joined Aug 10, 2003 Messages 408 Location McKinney TX Dec 25, 2005 #2 Unless Christensen Arms has changed there carbon wrap and there process I would steer way clear. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It took months and months of saving to be able to purchase this rifle. Live re barrel break in can minimize these problems and is much, much more fun! He shot a mule deer and cow elk (370 yds) and our other buddy used it to shoot a pronghorn (310) and a mule deer (570) all with a 130 accubond at 3075 fps. That's why they only last 200 rounds. I suspect they will have the 1:8s soon if they dont already. Labeled Verified, theyre about genuine experiences.Learn more about other kinds of reviews. I fired first 10, rolled over to spotting scope and he fired last 10 right after. The darn thing shoots lights out now with no stiff bolt. Well, that's disappointing. So unless proven otherwise I'll stick with residual stress as the cause. Now I was also shooting multiple different ammos for the other stuff in post 2. They have won precision gun of the year. I cannot speak on behalf of them. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. In the website, its not very clear that I could actually buy a zero-degree rail (duplicating the one it came with), so I had to call customer service. If this poses a problem, CALL US before . Companies can ask for reviews via automatic invitations. I have way more precision rifles in 6.5, .308, .300, .22-250 than is reasonable. Around Christmas, I bought an MPR in .300 Win Mag with the 26 inch carbon fiber barrel. I'm a NRA instructor and have shot quite a few rifles. I asked for assistance in picking the scope. hb``e``)f`e`H "@16S>00=;T It is magnificent and dead on! HlSK\1Sx$cY, )?$ye);3N: S@968)_17l]rmYrO^":Iy&DxcK3ZX7 UBxsGul4kN^N2tGRtV_0B>IiY4PfHuYxWBD7eA The Ranger 22 comes with a zero m.o.a. It is absolutely off the charts. 0000627089 00000 n I have been saving up for two years to purchaseone of your firearms. Many factors influence accuracy such as ammunition, conditions, shooter ability, etc. My MPR shot unimpressive groups with factory ammo as well, but not quite as bad as those. call john mogle . Bentz chamber I am going to give it one more shot at the range with myself and another shooter from a solid rest. I have a 300 RUM i bought a few years ago (before the ridge line introduction), and it shoots well and consistent out to 1000 yards. I own several nice firearms and the quality of this Christensen is heads and shoulders above any of my other guns. Not Yet Rated. . But its still the best shooting gun I have ever owned or shot, Had a question about fitting a Spartan Bipod on a MPR. The only factory ammo I could find. 0000001076 00000 n They seemed like good people over there to deal with I'm sure their not going to screw you over, I understand this is an old thread, but want to reply anyway. I was sorta on the fence on them, but have more confidence after reading all the positive reviews. The two-lug bolt gun is wickedly fast and easy to run. Thanks for any info. YSC cookie is set by Youtube and is used to track the views of embedded videos on Youtube pages. Many have commented get about 500 rounds through it and then come back and tell us how it is going. Fast response and helpful. Those are the two offerings I have found so far anyway. I had one built with a Christensen barrel and it consistently shoots in the .3s. Mine shoots damn good with both factory and reloads. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. At 50, I would be able to get a 3 or 4 round group in a roughly 4 inch group (still so unacceptable) and then I'd get a unpredictable POI shift from 4 to 10! I want an MPR with a regular steel barrel. Most of the time this is expressed in terms of the standard deviation or the extreme spread that we measure with our chronographsand the goal is to make that number as small as possible. Shoot at 100y? This is not a problem with the MPR because it can be made to fit almost anyone. The Mesa FFT is a great solution for backcountry hunting. They seem more than willing to help me out. My 700 in a krg same thing. That is why I am trying to reach out to see what actual real world experience is with them. The cookies is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Necessary". I can shoot a Tac A1 half to 3/4 moa from a bag and atlas. Yay. My CTR same thing. After talking for 10 minutes the rep begrudgingly offered me to send in my rifle under warranty but I was so pissed I said I'd call him back if/when I decide to do so. Have cycled ammo in magazine through the rifle with no issues. Checked all hardware for proper torque. In fact, the total package with the Leupold VX-6HD 2-1242 scope weighed in at eight pounds three ounces. If you are buying a blank to chamber in 7 PRC, be sure you get an 1:8 twist. They are simply the best shooting carbon barrels we have tested to date. and they took care of that. It goes against our guidelines to offer incentives for reviews. $749.00. Likely the barrel wasn't stress relieved prior to carbon fiber wrapping so the residual stresses are still there. How durable are carbon fiber wrapped barrels? I was wanting one in 300 Norma. . The gun shoots great for me. When shooting matches I can economize by using the Am Gunner ammo for targets inside 500 and I do it with my ballistic app set for the Match ammo. Performance cookies are used to understand and analyze the key performance indexes of the website which helps in delivering a better user experience for the visitors. Plus we tested them for stringing when hot at distance and they stayed in group. At just under 7.5 pounds, it is super-portable and handy. 0000008307 00000 n Only time will tell if its the barrel or not, so I'm looking forward to seeing what happens when another shooter tries it. I called Krieger and ordered a blank yesterday afternoon after debating whether or not to buy a CF barrel from Proof Research. I called Krieger and ordered a blank yesterday afternoon after debating whether or not to buy a CF barrel from Proof Research. Which I was told by Christensen that this weapon is a good choice for PRS so I'd assume it should hold up to consecutive rounds it got shipped off yesterday so we'll see. Thats why Christensen Arms builds an exceptionally lightweight, Gun would not come close to a 1 inch group. So, to answer that question about the most accurate rifles madehere they are. Shooting the bergara from the XLR chassis a a WORLD of difference from that Mega Orias chassis. To expand a little on my previous post I can talk some about the customer service aspect of Christensen compared to what I know about Bergara. i cant remember is this their match grade barrel. Brownings latest delivers top-notch long-range hunting performance at an attainable price, as the company was able to shave costs by making the new stock in-house. But with the issues I was having I knew if I kept shooting it would show the true nature of the issue. My test rifle delivered terrific accuracy with a variety of factory loads. Hopefully with the introduction of the 7PRC Christensen will begin offering 8 twist 7mm blanks. We take them on trade all the time for our custom rifles. Weight is not a deal breaker for me. Gun would not come close to a 1 inch group. Hotjar sets this cookie to know whether a user is included in the data sampling defined by the site's daily session limit. With carbon fiber on the fore-end and barrel, and a skeletonized folding stock, the MPR weighs just over 8 pounds and is quite portable. JavaScript is disabled. This is an impressive debut for Daniel Defense, which is a newcomer to the high-end bolt-action rifle scene. That being said, I see that a lot of people are commenting on the CS of Christensen Arms, good or bad this concerns me that they even have to call CS in the first place. Save big on firearms, accessories, tactical gear, clothing, and ammunition from now until March 29. The cookie is set by MailChimp to record which page the user first visited. Comparatively speaking that Mega chassis will beat you up. These cartridges are engineered to get bullets off to the best possible start by making sure the projectile is oriented as straight as possible in relation to the bore, which is done via steep shoulder angles, a minimal case taper, and tight throat dimensions. No offense but your CTR groups are far from bugholes or consistent either. Either from Christensen themselves or Midwest Gun Works? }pnR_qfC_;U~qhvyyz~7Y@v{wJ)'nH^_sqjxe{& gR4JzqT{_D*5+tjW6j?@>Qb-cu9*IQf9:o\\I z+Y=\l,'}Lk2uLna7 `13>aVUEVK6>0s zh)-O P)+l0Mz/J*Sl!i7vvfzgm2V?1\q$AL6D"qF-@'*GjD BB.YG~B9Jzn#$!D.#(aM0q4 |'x?4{L@=kV .T endstream endobj 170 0 obj <>>> endobj 171 0 obj >/PageTransformationMatrixList<0[1.0 0.0 0.0 1.0 0.0 0.0]>>/PageUIDList<0 207>>/PageWidthList<0 567.0>>>>>>/Resources<>/ExtGState<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageC]/Properties<>/XObject<>>>/Rotate 0/TrimBox[0.0 0.0 567.0 270.0]/Type/Page>> endobj 172 0 obj <> endobj 173 0 obj [/ICCBased 187 0 R] endobj 174 0 obj <>stream